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    <sp><speaker>Kim Sleeper</speaker>
        <p> My name is Kim Sleeper, teacher educator at Lincoln High School. We're here with Salema Mirza. We are in Lincoln, Nebraska. Today's date is Thursday, September 4th,
2024. Please state your name and please can you spell it. </p></sp>
    <sp><speaker>Salema Mirza</speaker>
    <p>My name is Salema Merza and I spelled as S-A-L-E-M-A, my first name, M-E-R-Z-A, my last name.</p></sp>
    <sp><speaker>Kim Sleeper</speaker>
        <p>Salema, where were you born and where did you grow up? </p></sp>
    <sp><speaker>Salema Mirza</speaker>
    <p>I was born in a beautiful city in Northern Iraq. It's called Sinjar, specifically in a village it's called Khana Sor. Sinjar is surrounded by mountains and valleys. It is very famous for its delicious figs. And it was a place then, honey. Growing up was among my family. We are pretty much a big family and among my Yazidi community.</p></sp>
 <sp><speaker>Kim Sleeper</speaker>
        <p>Very good. What languages did you speak in your home? </p></sp>
    <sp><speaker>Salema Mirza</speaker>
    <p>In my home, inside home I would say we were speaking Kurmanji. And
Kurmanji is a branch of Kurdish language, but it has its own unique grammar,
vocabulary, and pronunciation. It's a very beautiful expressive language actually.
I would say the language that our ancestors used in my community, the Yazidi
community in Sinjar in general, in my family was speaking. It is rich with, you
know, we use it a lot as a, I would say, a integral part of our identity of the
Yazidi identity, the Kurmanji language. It's rich with, I would say, story telling,
poetry, and, you know, songs and all that, are part of the language. Besides
Kurmanji, because we were not allowed to speak Kurmanji at school. So there was
also Arabic. So at school, they taught us in Arabic. And then after Saddam regime,
we have schools that was in Kurdish, but other dialects, not Kurmanji. So all three
of them were mixed together.</p></sp>
 <sp><speaker>Kim Sleeper</speaker>
        <p>So you were talking about your family. Can you tell me
more about your family and your extended family? What was your community like, your
culture like back home? </p></sp>
    <sp><speaker>Salema Mirza</speaker>
    <p>I came from a big family. Like my own family, I have three brothers and six sisters. And I'm the seventh one with my mom. My dad passed away back in 2011. It's a close knit one, my family with a strong ties to the Yazidi tradition. My extended family, it's a long line of Yazidis who lived in Sinjar actually with
many cousins, aunts, uncles from both sides, my dad's side and my mom's side as well.
We all lived together in Sinjar. We were often gathered together during, for
example, when somebody was getting engaged or getting married, you'll see everybody
will just come and try to enjoy that time during the religious activities, I would
say, that during Eid time. Also, I mean, when I would say good and bad time,
actually, we were kind of supporting each other during these times. And you said
what the community was like. In Sinjar, not only Yazidis lived there, but also
there were Muslims, Christians, and other minority groups that lived together. They
were living peacefully actually together. Yazidis had their own language, which is
Kurmanji that I referred to earlier. They were practicing some of their traditional
events, that taking place there. They had their own customs. Yazidi in Sinjar were
very skilled farmers, I would say. They were very good at farming, at
handicrafting. My mom was a weaver skill that she made a lot of clothes and
beautiful fabric that she passed that to my older sister. She was kind of, part of
the, I would say, the daily life, I think, to support the family with it. My
parents were farmers. We grew our vegetables, foods, other crops like, let's say,
wheat. We also raised livestock, like goat and sheep that use their, you know, they
provide us us with milk and meat and wool, all that helped us to go through the
daily life. On the religious side, Yazidis believe in one God and seven angels. The
Archangel is Tawûsî Melek. We celebrate a lot of Eid, each part, or each time of
the year there is a specific Eid that we celebrated. For example, when it's harvest
time, we have Eid Cheli Haviney, we have Eid Cheli Zivstaney, also the Yazidi New
Year that is on the second week of April. We have many of them after three days of
feasting on September we celebrate also it. So that's pretty much in general about
the Yazidi community.</p></sp>
    <sp><speaker>Kim Sleeper</speaker>
        <p>So how did you come to Lincoln? What did you hear about the
place before? And you were talking about how your family lived before with farming
and with creating clothing. So what are some of those things that you are able to
carry on and what things are more difficult to do in Lincoln? </p></sp>
    <sp><speaker>Salema Mirza</speaker>
    <p>Well, before I came
to Lincoln, I was in Duhok because after we fled to Kurdistan, I was living there.
The first time I heard about Lincoln was through my sister who came to the United
States in 2010. We didn't ask her a lot about where she was living or how the life
was looked like. To me, America was only what I saw in movies. It was Meryl
Streep, Brad Pitt, to be honest, high buildings. That's how I knew America. But as
Nebraska specifically, I did not hear about it. But when I was about to come to the
United States, I did have someone that I just knew that like the day before I came
to United said that he was from Omaha and as soon as I said that I'm leaving to to
go and I'm going to Nebraska it was like I will give you one piece of advice take
as many clothes as you can because it is snowing a lot and I am very now that I
love the snow a lot I love it I like it's my favorite I know how many people hate
it and he was like no no not after you moving there because that is not gonna be
anymore your favorite thing because it's hard to drive and I think now I understand
what he means by that. It is hard to drive. But yeah, I hear that through my
sister. When I moved to United States, I came right to Chicago and then we just stayed
there for a couple days and then I moved to here because I have a, my family first
of all, we're living here actually. Part of our resettlement that the agency we
were coming through, we have to have someone to host us when we move. She also told
us that there is a big population of the Yazidi community here in Lincoln and I
think those two things were what makes me to move to Lincoln, but I'm glad I moved
to Lincoln actually. What makes me to move to Lincoln, but I'm glad I moved to Lincoln actually. It's a very welcoming community, the nature that they have. I feel like the diversity it has, it really close a lot to where I came from. I think Sinjar was also at least diverse, so I think that helped.</p></sp>
    <sp><speaker>Kim Sleeper</speaker>
        <p>Do you think that you're able to carry on some of
the, well, either religious or cultural or just daily life traditions that you had
back in Sinjar? </p></sp>
    <sp><speaker>Salema Mirza</speaker>
    <p>So in Sinjar, the culture and
tradition, we were practicing, it was easier to do it than here, basically because
our shrines or, you know, the holy places like Lalish and other shrines in Sinjar
and in Jehan, it was easy to do there, it was easy to gather with the rest of the
Yazidi community, but moving to United States, there was a lot of challenges with
that, it didn't prevent us from practicing those traditions and culture that we
have back there. For example, here we will make some traditional food just like we did back there in
home. We will try as much as we can using the custms that we use back there in
the country. Women and girls we try to get in touch and tell each other about our
experience, the daily experiences, our stories, what we are going through every
day, gathering together, I think, celebrating our Eids and other, you know,
practices, religious practices. And I think all that helps us to, even if it's not 100% just like in Iraq, but it's
heal, it's like unbroken thread, I would say, between what we had there and here in
the United States, all that helped. So what things do you think, it sounds like a
lot of connection with the community has been very important.</p></sp>
 <sp><speaker>Kim Sleeper</speaker>
        <p> What are some other things that you think have been helpful in Lincoln in helping you specifically to
resettle here? </p></sp>
    <sp><speaker>Salema Mirza</speaker>
    <p>When I came to Lincoln, just like I referred to earlier, my sister
was here, so she was a great help to have her here to be honest.
I have a couple of local, I would say local community who came, we never met, but
they came to me and they offered that help. And that was something that was really
nice, I mean to get that help from someone that even you don't know. Because back
there for example I didn't know how to drive a car and they came to me, her name
was Catherine, I just want to say thank you to her, she just came and and she was
like, "Selima, you can depend on me, rely on me on getting your driver license. I
will teach you how to do that." Having the resettle agency here that helps the
refugee come to the United States also on the other hand [unclear] was really helpful
'cause they will find you housing, they will tell you about your doctors
appointment at the beginning when you come, what you need to do it, they will find
resources for you, find you jobs. All that was very helpful, but mostly the
welcoming nature of the community was the part that I feel like it's supposed to
stay there. So all that helped me to just fit in here.</p></sp>
 <sp><speaker>Kim Sleeper</speaker>
        <p>I do really love hearing
that about Lincoln. I think that that is something that's really special,
especially about this part of town, to where it is. Can you explain an item that
you brought with you? What's its significance? What meaning does it hold for you? </p></sp>
    <sp><speaker>Salema Mirza</speaker>
    <p>Yeah, just to show that to you. Unfortunately, I could not bring nothing from my hometown that is Sinjar in that area. But before I came to the United States, my
mom and I went to Lalish, and we got this piece of cloth that we have back there
and it's baptized with Lalish water and oh my gosh I don't want to cry here. These,
I feel like these parts help me whenever I miss my home, my, I will say my mom, my
home, community and Lalish piece of cloth, I hold on to it.
 And it's really kind of helped me to connect to the past.
And maybe it's something so good to me, people, but to me it's the only unbroken
thread between my past and present.
And I'm glad that at least I have this piece of cloth with me. I was able to bring
it. It's beautiful, yeah.</p></sp>

     <sp><speaker>Kim Sleeper</speaker>
        <p>Can you describe a little bit more about Lalish? and
baptism for those who don't know?</p></sp>

    <sp><speaker>Salema Mirza</speaker>
    <p>So Lalish is the holiest place for the Yazidis
and it is in Shikhan. I wanna mention that because people are confused between
Sinjar and Shikhan. Sinjar is in the northern of Iraq, all the way by the Syrian
border, but Shikhan is kind of close to Mosul and that area. So Lalish is in
Shikhan. Yazidis have to visit Lalish at least once in their lifetime. When
you get there, there is some holy water in Lalish. We call it the spring water. And
when you go there with some specific sounds of the music and songs that the
religious songs that you got baptized there with that water by a religious man or a
woman depends on who is there by the way if there are a couple married they are not
allowed to get into there together because in our faith that if they get into the
thing they can't like they're like sisters and brothers so only you need to go and
then if your husband who has to go after you after you come back there. So that is
how the baptize. Okay, beautiful that it it helps you connect with that and
signifies that It reminds me  of my mother's love and those. You know that the
sacred rituals. It does help me a lot.</p></sp>
    <sp><speaker>Kim Sleeper</speaker>
        <p> So you talked on how the Lincoln community
has been very welcoming. Some people who are Yazidi, some people are not. But what
do you think makes the Yazidi community in Lincoln so special? How have people
worked to resettle? How have people worked to build organizations and build it so
that the community feels resettled here, even if it's not in your name? </p></sp>
    <sp><speaker>Salema Mirza</speaker>
    <p>I think
what Yazidi community went through and we believe that we went through 74 genocides
and they're still sticking to your beliefs and fighting for life by all means to
stay steady and put, establish some foothold there and rebuild your life. that
resilience that they have, I think that is the spirit of our community. Going
through 74 genocide and it's still ongoing, it wasn't something easy to get. So
despite the trauma that we went through after we came to the United States, we
started looking forward, looking for a new life, really new lives, continuing our
education, holding on what we have in hand.
So to prevent the future generations to go through what we went through. And on the
other hand side, while you are focusing on how to maintain two cultures in the same
time, while you went through all that to trauma and you are still healing, you focus on your kids, trying to give them a better life. It is a challenge by itself. Like,
at the same time, they will maintain their culture and then the American culture
will be in United States. By the way, it's not easy at all. And raising kids on the
other hand side, how to make them understand that they came from a background, that
they went through all these genocides because they want to stick to their faith,
because they want to stick to their culture, because they know they came from a
beautiful background, they don't want to lose it. So I think that is the most
special thing about this community, the strong bond that they have, and how they
will just still support each other when something happens. I went through a
situation with a family where my brother went through a car accident. We didn't
know what would happen. Every single person that we know from the Yazidi community,
they just came. They will visit us. They will not let us alone. A couple of them
just came with me and we just drive that car all the way and we went to
Chicago. So all these things make the community special. You feel like, "Oh,
doesn't matter what I'm going through, I still have my community." I feel like
there is a hope to heal. There is a hope that I can rebuild my life. I can find a
better life for myself, for my kids, and for the Yazidi community. It's beautiful.</p></sp>
    <sp><speaker>Kim Sleeper</speaker>
        <p>Thank you so much. Thank you so much. I think that that's the end of our questions unless there's any final comments that you really want people to know and
understand.  </p></sp>
    <sp><speaker>Salema Mirza</speaker>
    <p>I think what people need to know more about the Yazidi community is
that ISIS's attack for Yazidi was not a first or last for Yazidi. Yazidis has been
beset by an ongoing, centuries-long campaign of wars, genocides, and operations.
Whenever they strive to establish foothold and try to rebuild their lives, they
face a renewal, I would say, and a discrimination. That constant thing makes
Yazidi without carrying the protection and support for her. What is the hardest
part about it? Hopefully one day that someone will just come and stop what is
happening because it is really something going to be hard for the Yazidi to
survive. What happened in 2014 was kind of their goal was to eradicate Yazidis from
existence. I'm saying if this continues on this way, I think that it's gonna
unfortunately happen, which I am not hoping, because Yazidi minority all over the
world is like one million. That's all. And that's for culture, the heritage and
everything. The culture, if it faded in global, with every single step that you
make, I think that even if you mention Yazidi in the United States, they have no
idea. It's hard to keep the minority group this way, if this keeps going.</p></sp>
 <sp><speaker>Kim Sleeper</speaker>
        <p>I do know that things like this can help stop that. And a lot of of people in the US just don't
know. Even if you mention Yazidi, or maybe they remember the news from 2014, but I
hope that these little bits of education. will help people to understand that if
they hear </p></sp>
    <sp><speaker>Salema Mirza</speaker>
    <p>Well, I hope so, and I don't blame them if they don't hear about the
Yazidis, because really if there was kind of a discrimination against my
community, I would say on all sides that 2014 was at any time, we would never say
it was something good. The only good thing about it that people was able to [unclear] It's very sad to say that an event will be [unclear] where people
are starting to take over. I know Yazidi, I know their culture of Yazidi because I
had them. So I was hoping that it would be a different way that they know Yazidi,
but unfortunately, that attack now we have to. So we'll just keep finger crossed
that one day or will we just end it all or not only for the Yazidis?  Yeah, right.
Thank you so much for really, I appreciate this. I hope that everything goes well.</p></sp>
 <sp><speaker>Kim Sleeper</speaker>
        <p> Let me get this thing out of the way. Thank you.</p></sp>
    <sp><speaker>Salema Mirza</speaker>
    <p>Thank you so much for having me.</p></sp>
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
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