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<speaker>Irving Shapiro</speaker>
<p>Not to fall down. And they picked me. And they
picked out about 30 men and they took us to a, to the bath house. We went to the bath house.
They bathed us again. They disinfected us, and they gave us work in the bathhouse. The bathhouse was a place where they used to, after the selection that they took away, the women and children and the
older people to the crematorium to gas them and burn them. They left the younger ones and
the healthier ones they left and they put them to work in the camps.</p>

<p>So we, before they went to the camps, our job was to bath them and strip them from all their clothes. And disinfect them and gave them
prison clothes and send them out to the camps. When they were undressing and dumped all their clothes on the on the ground and walking out of the barrack, we used to take the clothes
and put them on trucks. And while we were walking from
the barracks into the to the truck to load the clothes, we searched through the
pockets and found some valuables. Of course, we didn't dare to let anybody
see it because if they would find, if they would catch us doing that, they would kill us right in the spot. So we hid whatever we can find. And then we had a chance to trade
it with some people that work with civilians, take it to work and bring us an
extra piece of bread for that or something else that's edible. The most important thing for us was to get something extra to eat.</p>

<p>After working in the bathhouse
for about three, four weeks, they came in and they said, they
need eight men for a special job. We're going to be working at night. We didn't know what the work was. When
they came the first time to take us out, they came about midnight
and they took us over to the women's camp. And we got into a barrack
and they were dead women lying in the barracks and our job was to drag them
out and load them on trucks. They told us that those women
died of a disease because every morning when we
went back to the camps after the work was done at night, we loaded about between 800
to 1200 women every night. They told us that the women died of
disease and they wanted us to get showers and dissenfect. And they gave us every morning, they gave us a loaf of bread and a salami. And in two, three weeks,
I gained about 80 pounds. I had ate so much from the what they gave us the extra
bread and the salami. Then we found out that the
women didn't die of any disease, but they used to bring
in from other barracks to this special barrack, they brought
in the thousand women. They fed them some soup at noon
and at night they were dead. We found out that they were poisoned
the soup and they want to eliminate some people. I don't know. They, they usually used to take them to the
crematorium and gas them, but they wanted do a different way. So they,
they poisoned them with the food. And we were loading
those women in in on trucks and they took them to the
crematorium and burned the bodies. It was going on for about four
or five weeks. Every night.</p>

<p>They took us from Birkenau to Buna and I was assigned to
the machinists commando. There were 800 people
assigned to that commando. First time when we went out to work, we got assigned three prisoners to two civilians. And my job was pipe fitting.</p>

<p>I was in Buna until May until January the 18th, 1945. And the Russian front start
getting a little closer. So they start to preparing to marched us out out of the camp. And one night, March 18 was cold, about two feet of snow on the ground. They get us, get out, gathered up, gathered us up in the camp. Took out all the bread with anything that was left over
in the kitchen. And they
gave us to us prisoners. And they took us out at night to march someplace. We didn't know where we were going.</p>

<p>While we were marching out of Buna. One of the guards came
over to me and he said, you take that dog. And if
we get to our destination, I will take him back from you. Says
that take good care of him because this dog belongs to the camp
commandant Schwartz from Auschwitz. That dog saved my life because first of all, he was a lot of people walking
in the snow and weak and hungry. They, they dropped, but when they
dropped they, they, they, uh, killed you right there. But the dog pulled me through the snow. And not only that, a lot of people
were carrying some food, some bread. And when you walk,
everything becomes so heavy. So they threw out everything
and the dog sniffed it and found bread and and some meats,
some sausage, what they had. And they, the dog found that. And I was gathering that stuff up. And that was easier for me
because the dog was pulling me.</p>

<p>After three days and
three nights marching we got into a place they
called Gleiwitz that was a, a center where they brought in a lot
of prisoners and they loaded them in railroad cars. They put us in, in boxcars, open boxcars, coal cars, and about 250 of us into a, to a car. And we didn't have any
room to sit down. No, not talking about laying down
even to sit down. So we stood, stood up all the time. We were standing. And the ones
that had that place next to the, to the edge of the car found out later, we had it a little better
because when the train took off with 12,000 prisoners. And they dragged us for 14 days from Gleiwitz to Czechoslovakia
to Austria to Germany, into central Germany. And they never gave us a drop of water or anything to eat. And whoever
stood there, the edge of the car got a pot or something. And we took a few strings
and tied on to the pot. And we scooped some snow. When the
train was moving from the ground.</p>

<p>And after two weeks, we came into a
place where there was all mountains, always all mountains. We
didn't see nothing else. And we got in between the mountains, in the train and we got into a camp they called Dora and they had
about 120,000 prisoners in that camp. We didn't see absolutely
nothing from the outside. That was the camp where they
manufactured the D2 rockets. I wasn't at camp for about three months.</p>

<p>And after three months, the Russian front start
coming a little closer. And then they decided one night
to take us out from that camp. So they cooked up a soup for us, and they fed everybody the soup. We were 400 and they gave us a soup to eat and they start marching
us out of the camp. Something was wrong with that soup because
everybody got diarrhea and we're walking for about seven days. And we let left a trail
all the way till we came to the place where they wanted us to, to go.</p>

<p>We came to a place to the Elbe
River and there was a barge sitting over there waiting for us. Before we got on the
barge, one of the guys fell down and he couldn't
get up. He was so weak. So one of the SS troopers
grabbed me and he says, go and bury him. He gave
me a shovel. It was grass. They gave me a shovel to dig in the grass. Everybody got a ration of bread
because they want wanted, they went to put us on the
barge. So I held under my arm. I didn't dare put away the bread on the
ground because somebody would grab it right away. So I held
on my arm that bread, and I was digging
the hole with a shovel. And I looked at it and the
man he was still alive. I said my God, I was thinking, I got
bury the guy he is still alive. And then a German soldier from the Luftwaffe came by and he says to me, what
are you doing here? He says, I got a bury him. He said to me, he says,
he's still alive. I says, I know, but I got the order from SS to bury him. So he took out his gun and he shot the man.</p>

<p>So when we got liberated
we were in the camps, right away they opened up an office,
they call it UNRRA office. And they started repatriating those people from
the camps to their countries. The Russians start going to Russia. The Belgiums went to Belgium, the French, but we, some of us didn't have no place to go.</p>

<p>My name is Irving Shapiro.
My name is Irving Shapiro, Nebraska. I'm
from Gering, Nebraska businessmen. Of course I wasn't always a businessman. I had, I was born in Miedzyrzec, Poland, April [inaudible], April the 15th, nine, I had a large family, lots of
aunts, cousins, family, lots of aunts, uncles, and grandparents. And they old grandparents
during the Holocaust, all perished during the
Holocaust. The only one, the only one left was my young brother which I was shipped out with
brother, get up with him, which I will do a camp shipped
out into [inaudible] into a, I named my three months at three months in a
transport the three months. And I share a
and I never saw him again, still trying to find them.
I'm still searched for him, trying to find them search for him. But I didn't have any luck so far. I didn't have any luck so far.</p>
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