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<sp><speaker>Maurice Udes</speaker>

<p>Hello. I'm Maury Udes. I have lived in Omaha since I think 1949.</p>

<p>I'd like to tell you a little bit about
my family background. My dad's family came from Russia. My dad was born in Russia. He was about six months old
when his parents left and came here and I'm happy to say
they brought him with them. And I'm sorry to say, my father passed away a few years ago, but he was wonderful gentleman and I really enjoyed him. On my mother side, they came
from Germany. My mother, my grandmother immigrated
here when she was about 14. She came by herself. I don't know why. I never
heard those details, but her family sent her to relatives in Arkansas, which is where I was born and raised and had a great boyhood down
there.</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Interviewer</speaker>
<p>When were you born?</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Maurice Udes</speaker>
<p>November 23rd, 1921.</p> 
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Interviewer</speaker>
<p>Tell me a little bit about
growing up in Arkansas.</p></sp>

<sp><speaker>Maurice Udes</speaker>
<p>Well, I don't know that I ever grew up, but it was wonderful down
there when I was young. I had a great boyhood, 
had a lot of friends. A lot of them I'm still in contact with.</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Interviewer</speaker>
<p>Do you have a lot of memories for the
house you lived in or the houses you lived in?</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Maurice Udes</speaker>
<p>Well, yes, but not really. I left
there a long time ago and I remember the houses
I've lived in here in Omaha, probably more than those
I lived in Arkansas. Anyway, I had a great boyhood there, had a lot of good friends and I've
gone back for every class reunion we've ever had. Although I really enjoy
Omaha, I still have wonderful memories of my boyhood and my friends in Arkansas.</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Interviewer</speaker>
<p>Do you have any brothers or
sisters?</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Maurice Udes</speaker>
<p>I have a younger sister, but she isn't doing very well. She's waiting for her replacement kidney and I don't know if she'll ever get it. She's about seven years younger than I am. And she just, she
just isn't doing well.</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Interviewer</speaker>
<p>Where does she live?</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Maurice Udes</speaker>
<p>She lives in Lafayette, Louisiana.</p></sp>

<sp><speaker>Interviewer</speaker>
<p>What kind of work did your father do while you were growing up?</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Maurice Udes</speaker>
<p>Well, the family had a wholesale
grocery business and my uncle ran it and my dad worked for him. Family-owned wholesale
grocery business. And, after prohibition was repealed, they started wholesaling liquor and beer, and then they put in
their own bottling plant. They bottled their own
wine and it was quite an enterprise they had.</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Interviewer</speaker>
<p>Did you work there growing up?</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Maurice Udes</speaker>
<p>Oh, I worked there in the summer, just filling orders and
trying to build some muscle.</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Interviewer</speaker>
<p>Did you go to high school
in the same area?</p></sp>

<sp><speaker>Maurice Udes</speaker>
<p>Yeah. We had a great high school and
our high school all the years I was there our high school had a great
football team and that they had to win the state
championship about every second year. And that's quite an accomplishment
for a small town like that. And our better athletes, they didn't go to University of Arkansas, they went to Alabama and pretty
soon everybody was calling us an Alabama farm team.</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Interviewer</speaker>
<p>When you graduated from high school, 
Maury, did you go on to the university?</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Maurice Udes</speaker>
<p>Well, I went to Purdue I didn't
go to University of Arkansas and math was my favorite subject,
my best subject in high school. And I discussed it with my math
teacher and he recommended that I go to Purdue and that's what I
did. So I went to Purdue, graduated, went in the service as soon as I got out of
high school, World War II.</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Interviewer</speaker>
<p>What kind of degree did you get from Purdue?</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Maurice Udes</speaker>
<p>A bachelor of science
in electrical engineering.</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Interviewer</speaker>
<p>And right from Purdue, you
went into the service?</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Maurice Udes</speaker>
<p>Yeah. Purdue had people out interviewing
graduating seniors every year. They interviewed me and I
thanked them for the interview. And I says I'm going into the
service soon as I finish here, that's final. Well, nothing can be done to change
it. I'm not trying to change it. But, when I come back, if I come back, I'd like to know that I
could I contact your then? And I, if you have an opening,
 go to work for you. They said we'd be happy
if you would contact us. So I did. And I, I got out of the service. I worked for GE for short time.
And then I went on to other things.</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Interviewer</speaker>
<p>What were some of the other
things you did after that?</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Maurice Udes</speaker>
<p>Well, I went out and found a job
where I could make more money, where I thought I had entered
the job would introduce me to better opportunities for advancement was a job with Lyon Metal Products. And Lyon was a manufacturer
of products from light cages light cages of steel. And they had a wonderful line and it just had went real well for me.
They were a great company to work for.</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Interviewer</speaker>
<p>Did you do a lot of traveling?</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Maurice Udes</speaker>
<p>Well, at first I traveled the state
of Arkansas and then we had a sales meeting in Kansas City. And at that time I had worked, I had been
working as a salesman for two years, but Arkansas was not the best place to sell the type products Lyon had. So we had a sales meeting and I
approached the president of the company and I told him that. I said, well, I've been working in sales
for you for two years now. I said, I wish you could give some consideration
to giving me a better sales territory, more potential. He says, okay. And he turned and walked away.
And I didn't know if he meant, uh, oh, okay I'll, I'll give you a better
territory or if he meant, okay, the conversation's over. But, I was transferred to Chicago, had a wonderful opportunity there and from there I was transferred to
Omaha and had a wonderful opportunity here. And so I'm just real happy with the
way things went for a while, went for me with Lyon Metal Products.</p></sp>

<sp><speaker>Interviewer</speaker>
<p>When you're with them for
quite a number of years?</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Maurice Udes</speaker>
<p>Well, I was with them
in Arkansas for two years. And I think I must have been
with them here for four years. So it was probably close to six
years and I worked for them.</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Interviewer</speaker>
<p>What was your next step then in life?</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Maurice Udes</speaker>
<p>Well, then I went into
business for myself.</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Interviewer</speaker>
<p>Doing what?</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Maurice Udes</speaker>
<p>Well, I started a lumberyard. I jumped right out of what I
had been learning and it was worked out well for me.</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Interviewer</speaker>
<p>How did you happen to get into
a business like that Maury?</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Maurice Udes</speaker>
<p>Well, I was looking for a job and my, Lyon Metal, was
advertising for salesman. So I interviewed with, and I felt there was exactly
what I was looking for. And he gave me a great opportunity to learn about, get educated and a huge
line of products at Lyon Manufacturing. And it was just a real natural.</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Interviewer</speaker>
<p>Then how did you happen to work
yourself into the lumber business?</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Maurice Udes</speaker>
<p>Well, Lyon made a line of
steel kitchen cabinets, and at that time, Youngstown was a big name
 in steel kitchen cabinets and Lyon made a steel kitchen cabinet line too. And, both made a very superior line, but Lyon had a price advantage and you could go up against anybody and everything fell into place so easily. So I got acquainted with a lot of
builders and it led me into the lumber business.</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Interviewer</speaker>
<p>And you branched out in the
lumber business, doing everything — hardware, lumber and so on. Didn't ya?</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Maurice Udes</speaker>
<p>Well, I started manufacturing wooden kitchen cabinets. That was, that was a great thing.</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Interviewer</speaker>
<p>And then did you get into
doors and windows?</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Maurice Udes</speaker>
<p>Yeah. Sure did.</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Interviewer</speaker>
<p>How many years were you
in the lumber business?</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Maurice Udes</speaker>
<p>I'm not sure. I don't want
to say eight or nine years. It went real well.</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Interviewer</speaker>
<p>A lot of hard work?</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Maurice Udes</speaker>
<p>A lot of good work.</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Interviewer</speaker>
<p>I'd like you to tell me a little
bit about your time in the service.</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Maurice Udes</speaker>
<p>Okay. Well, I think I was in
the service about four years. I think I was overseas a
year, two and a half years, and I was in England, France, Belgium, Germany,
and Czechoslovakia. I enjoyed every minute of it. I got a lot of beautiful
training, wonderful education. And I came right out of college,
right out of engineering school into the service. And I was
field artillery man. In the field artillery, you use some math and after I had finished my artillery training, they took me on the sound and
flash ranging where you can locate enemy artillery
just by the sound of the enemy's gun firing. You could accurately
locate his map coordinates. You can triangulate 'em and you could give his
coordinates to our own artillery. They could fire one shell out there. We triangulate on where
that shell detonated and give him another, another rating. And the next shell
would be right on top of their artillery. There was a wonderful, and we had a lot of ammunition. The Germans were short of
everything. They started the war with the greatest army, mechanized
army, in the history of the world. As early as 1942, they were running out of everything.</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Interviewer</speaker>
<p>You went in as an enlisted man?</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Maurice Udes</speaker>
<p>Yes. I went in as
an enlisted man, and then I went to OCS, I got a commission and
I became a battery commander. And, I came out as a captain.</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Interviewer</speaker>
<p>You enjoyed all your
time in the service.</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Maurice Udes</speaker>
<p>I enjoyed every minute of it. It was great stuff. And it all worked.</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Interviewer</speaker>
<p>What outfits where you with?</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Maurice Udes</speaker>
<p>Well, it's been so long ago. It's been so
long since I've thought about it. I'm having a little trouble recalling. I'm having trouble
remembering the numbers.</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Interviewer</speaker>
<p>You were telling me
earlier, Maury, about a trip you had made to the
Gurs concentration camp. I'd like you to tell me that again.</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Maurice Udes</speaker>
<p>Well, I think I mentioned earlier, my grandmother was born in Germany and she immigrated here
when she was about 14. Her family sent her to relatives in Arkansas. I don't know the story
connected with that. I don't know why they sent her alone, but she came with no escort to relatives in Arkansas when she was 14 years old. What was your question?</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Interviewer</speaker>
<p>We were talking about the trip you made to Gurs.</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Maurice Udes</speaker>
<p>Oh yeah. Anyway, my grandmother's, my grandmother
had a sister who did not immigrate and they were putting all
the Jews in the concentration camps. So her sister was put in
this camp in France, it's called camp De Gurs. And my grandmother did everything
she could for her. Which of course was very limited. She sent her clothing. She sent her
groceries. She sent her a little money, the amount of money you could send was limited. A little
bit of American money would go a long ways
in Germany at that time. So my grandmother continued to send her, her sister money. And my
grandmother had her son get an attorney and they drew papers for the sister's emigration. And I don't think she
ever got papers or when she did, it was too late. And her sister wrote that she had taken in this young girl, which to us meant that she
had informally adopted her. And she said that if the papers didn't also cover this little girl, she said she wouldn't leave her behind. So I felt my grandmother's sister was one of the heroines of the Holocaust because she did stay behind with her step daughter.
And they were both lost.</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Interviewer</speaker>
<p>Wasn't it at a later you tried to
make the trip to Gurs camp?</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Maurice Udes</speaker>
<p>Yes, I did make the trip.</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Interviewer</speaker>
<p>Can
you tell me about that?</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Maurice Udes</speaker>
<p>Well, I finished up the war as a prisoner of war in Germany.</p>

<p>I told . . .  already cleared
that with, I told him, I told him that.</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Interviewer</speaker>
<p>But you did make the trip to
Gurs?</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Maurice Udes</speaker>
<p>You know, I've been, I've been a prisoner of war myself. And when I got out of a PW camp, I got a Jeep, told my commanding officer of my aunt, and I told him I wanted to go look. I was given permission
to go and look for her. When I got to this camp De Gurs, where she had been the last
time we heard from her and there were no inmates there and we heard they had all been sent to what I
told you, the name of the camp.</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Interviewer</speaker>
<p>Auschwitz.</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Maurice Udes</speaker>
<p>They had all been sent to
Auschwitz, for extermination.</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Interviewer</speaker>
<p>When did you come home from the service?</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Maurice Udes</speaker>
<p>Yeah, I think it was May of 1944.</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Interviewer</speaker>
<p>And that's when you went to
work for the metal company.</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Maurice Udes</speaker>
<p>No, I went to work for
GE. And then after that, I went to work for Lyon Metal.</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Interviewer</speaker>
<p>And then that's what
brought you to Omaha.</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Maurice Udes</speaker>
<p>Yeah.</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Interviewer</speaker>
<p>You have a lot of good
memories about Omaha, Maury?</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Maurice Udes</speaker>
<p>Omaha. It's just
been wonderful to me.</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Interviewer</speaker>
<p>You've enjoyed your years here?</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Maurice Udes</speaker>
<p>Have enjoyed my years and, and great opportunities here. And I'm real grateful for the
opportunities that I've had here.</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Interviewer</speaker>
<p>Through a lot of hard work.</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Maurice Udes</speaker>
<p>Well, it it's fun work under the
circumstances that I have.</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Interviewer</speaker>
<p>I'd like you to tell me a
little bit about your dancing.</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Maurice Udes</speaker>
<p>Well, that's her hobby and I'm supposed to get a lot of
exercise. I have to have exercise. I'm a diabetic, that calls for exercise. And I get my exercise through my dance. My wife is a great dancer. She's one of the best female
amateur dancers in the country. And then we have gone to a
lot of dance competitions and we always do well.
And we have a lot of fun.</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Interviewer</speaker>
<p>You travel around the country doing this?</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Maurice Udes</speaker>
<p>Yeah, we go to about
six competitions a year.</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Interviewer</speaker>
<p>All over the country?</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Maurice Udes</speaker>
<p>Yeah.</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Interviewer</speaker>
<p>You've always enjoyed dancing. Have you?</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Maurice Udes</speaker>
<p>Yeah, I've enjoyed it for a long time. The Ohio Star Ball is
the biggest competition. The last time we were there,
I think they had 16,000 entries.</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Interviewer</speaker>
<p>And you were among those
16,000. How did you do?</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Maurice Udes</speaker>
<p>Oh, I don't remember that. And I've got the metals downstairs and
I'm not sure I could tell you which year I won which metals.</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Interviewer</speaker>
<p>It's kinda nice to enjoy those
things too, isn't it?</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Maurice Udes</speaker>
<p>Yeah. But there's always another one coming
up and we're always getting prepared for the next one.</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Interviewer</speaker>
<p>Takes a lot of practice?</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Maurice Udes</speaker>
<p>Takes a lot of practice.</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Interviewer</speaker>
<p>Tell me about your family Maury.</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Maurice Udes</speaker>
<p>Um, my wife and I were
both married before, so we each had two families. We have six daughters, two grandchildren. And they're, they're just
wonderful. We enjoy them all.</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Interviewer</speaker>
<p>Did they live here in Omaha?</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Maurice Udes</speaker>
<p>They all started here in Omaha. But Joan's daughters
all live someplace else. Mine all live here.</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Interviewer</speaker>
<p>And you get together as
a family quite often?</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Maurice Udes</speaker>
<p>Well, we get together as often as we can. I think we see a lot of each other.</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Interviewer</speaker>
<p>Well, I wanted to stop and give you
a, let you catch your breath for a second.</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Interviewer</speaker>
<p>Maury, in 2001 you were honored
by the Omaha Business Hall of Fame. I'd like to read the citation
that was given you at that time.</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Maurice Udes</speaker>
<p>Thank you.</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Unknown</speaker>
<p>Energy, ideas and involvement
in the community describe Maury Udes. Starting as
a manufacturer's representative in 1946, the World War II veteran built a lumber
and building supply business into what is today one of the largest single location
lumberyards in the country. Born in Pine Bluff, Arkansas, Udes graduated from Purdue University
with an electrical engineering degree and then spent the next three years in
the army field artillery in war-torn Europe. In 1946, Udes returned to Arkansas and took a
sales job with Lyon Metal Products. He then transferred to Omaha
and continued representing Lyon. He started Builders Supply Company
in 1951 at an old coal yard site. The company first sold lumber
and other building materials and later expanded into millwork.
After several expansions, the company moved to the
35 acre site at 5701 South 72nd Street, where it currently operates. In 1971, Udes set up one of the first
employee stock ownership plans, ESOP, and began turning over company
ownership to the employees. Today, the company is totally owned
by its over 220 employees. Now retired from Builders Supply
Company, Udes remains active in land development through several
companies. In the past 25 years, he has developed many residential
subdivisions. Through the Metropolitan Omaha Builders Association, MOBA,
Udes fought ordinances which would restrict growth and
was instrumental in helping pass LB 775 and  LB 270 business growth incentive.</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Interviewer</speaker>
<p>That's quite an honor, Maury.</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Maurice Udes</speaker>
<p>Thank you.</p>
</sp>

<sp><speaker>Maurice Udes</speaker>
<p>This is a picture of my
mother and her family. In the upper left-hand corner
is her brother, Dan. And next to Dan, its his wife Etta. And then next to Etta is my mother's brother-in-law Stanley. And next to Stanley is his wife my mother's sister and then the next row down on the left side is my mother's brother Leon. And then my mother's father and mother, and then on the far right, is my mother. And that's the complete family.</p>

 <p>This is my grandmother's
sister and her husband. The sister is the one that
went to the camp De Gurs concentration camp, which was close to the Spanish border,
French-Spanish border. And she did not survive.</p>

 <p>This is my maternal grandfather that I'm named after. His name was Morris.</p>

 <p>This is my grandmother
in her younger years. Her name, my grandmother's
name, was Francis. </p>

<p>This is my grandmother Francis, as she appeared when
she was somewhat older.</p>

 <p>This is my mother when
she was a young girl.</p>

<p>This is my mother with a
happy smile on her face. She was still young, but older
than she was in the prior picture.</p>

 <p>This is a picture of my Dad.</p>
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